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The growth of offshore outsourcing is a good thing for the US economy and the world economy because it democratises the rules of offshore resources presents a tremendous opportunity to remain competitive

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Uh-oh looks like at least one economics heavyweight disagrees.

Paul A. Samuelson, the Nobel Prize-winning economist and professor emeritus at MIT, asserts in an upcoming article for the Journal of Economic Perspectives, that the assumption that the laws of economics dictate that the American economy will benefit in the long run from all forms of international trade, including the outsourcing abroad of call-center and software programming jobs...is wrong.

For more details there's a great article in the New York Times summarizing his counter-argument.

If outsourcing is great for the U.S. Economy.
And the job loss is temporary.
Please show me the time table that will bring back the not just the IT jobs that have left but the manufacturing jobs that were lost to overseas cheap labour so Companies can make a buck.
If outsourcing is great and such a boon why are CEO/CFO and other executive positions not on the list to be outsourced?
Obviously if India can staff the same call center and programming shop for $200.00 dollars per-person vice the $1,000.00 per-person in the U.S. look how much the company would reap if it could outsource the more than six figure salary plus bonuses if you removed a few executives.
No I do not agree that outsourcing is a way to open more trade markets, only a way to boast income for a company and its stockholders and owners.

Big corporations, the ones doing the outsourcing, do not provide the bulk of the jobs. For geeks, which to some implies having more intelligence than the common worker, some of you are dumber than the proverbial doorknob.

The primary job creation engine of the economy is the small businessman (or woman). Big corporations get the headlines because they usually affect people in larger numbers at one time. However their numbers are really not that meaningful when you look at the number of people employed in this country. There are 138 MILLION people working in the US.

How many jobs were outsourced? Now, looking back on history shouldn't we consider the 70s the age of outsourcing automobile workers? The 80s textile workers?

As for the job creation. The capital gains tax cuts and similar equalizing of the percentage of income tax benefit the small business greatly. I know, I have four relatives with small businesses who have grosses from as low as 500k to nearly 5 million. Guess what, they have more money and they did exactly what was expected, they hired to grow even bigger.

Now what will stop this? Simple, raising the taxes on the "evil rich". Sorry, the proposed plans will smack down more small businesses than anyone. The ones with the millions and billions have relatively no income and have the means to dodge nearly most forms of taxes.

In the end the only proper way to deal with taxation is by consumption. The rich consume in a very big fashion and the fairtax will accomplish that.

When in feb the president's chief economic adviser, Greg Mankiw, wrote that the movement of U.S. jobs overseas due to cheaper labor costs would prove "a plus for the economy in the long run," and was simply "a new way of doing international trade," GOP House Speaker Dennis Hastert lambasted him, saying, "His theory fails a basic test of real economics."

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Oh how I love these articles...have no fear outsourcing is here!

Notice how the author says "can", not will: it *can* help, but will it? There is no guarantee. Like the other poster said, the conditions for Japan are different than today. I love how there is always some generality to these statements, like it can help the US economy... When, I ask, and in what way? Be specific!

In the meantime, what am I supposed to do since It is very difficult to find the next software job? Should I go back to school for the umpteenth time and this time, get a degree in chemical engineering? What other career am I supposed to be trained into anyways? Oops I forgot, I am getting older, and now have children. Sure seems like the re-education theme is wearing thin. I am tired of getting educated, and then re-educated whenever some bozos talk generally about the *potential* for the US economy when we outsource jobs.

I suspect that what will really happen is that we will cede technological superiority to other countries in years to come.

The author doesn't get a few important facts:

One, the difference between what happened in post-war Japan and what's happening now in India is that Japan created their own products (Sony, Yamaha, Honda, and Kawasaki aren't American-owned brands) in their own manufacturing facilities using their own work force - they didn't bid on production for North American companies and poach North American jobs.

Second, Corporate America seems unable to see beyond their greedy noses.

While outsourcing will no doubt greatly assist Corporate America in their never-ending crusade for more and more immediate profits and "maximizing stockholder value" (and screw the consequences), it does nothing for the average American (or Canadian). Do you remember them? They're the ones who actually do the work all day, not play golf, or polo, or gaze out the windows of their corner penthouse offices... The ones on whose backs the CxO's pleasures were "earned". Eventually, John Q Public will be unemployed.

Beyond contributing to the eventual collapse of retail and service industries in North America due to decining customer bases, citizens being unemployed means no tax revenue for governments, and if enough citizens are unemployed, eventually no government will be able to raise moey to finance the things we've all become accustomed to - things like welfare, roads, schools, health, multi-billion dollar wars waged to protect Corporate America's profits, etc.

Oh well, history show that all empires eventually crumble due to greed. Maybe it's time this one did, too...

Bangalore will soon have a greater concentration of techies than Silicon Valley. The future of computing will be driven not by existing users but by new users. These are going to be from the world's emerging markets. They need computing at the price of a cellphone. They need computing as a utility. The next big thing in computing will be about building a platform which makes the two most important creations of the past - the computer and the Internet - available to the next users at a fraction of today's prices.

Has anyone heard of a book by N. Sivakumar of Bridgewater, New Jersey, called 'Debugging Indian Computer Programs - Dude, did I steal your job?'

It was on the Amazon bestseller list sometime back, defends H1-B/L1 visa holders and their contributions to the US economy.